Are You a Frugal Mooch?: Mooching Off Friends Is Not a Valid Savings Strategy

Sometimes, the quest for frugality can drive us to do ugly things. One of those things is mooching.

You probably know some mooches in your life. I know I do! In every social group, there’s That One Guy who comes to every party, eats and drinks as though he’s storing up for a long winter’s hibernation, and never offers to bring anything or chip in. He begs rides and never offers gas money. If you do him a favor, you’re extremely unlikely to be thanked with a kind word, a gift, or a return favor in the future.

On the other hand, in the rare instances where That One Guy actually orders a pizza for the group, out comes the calculator. He’ll send you a dead-serious Venmo request for $2.40 for your 1/8 of the pie. And no, he did NOT forget to factor in the tip, sales tax, or delivery fee.

He's right!

Mooching, also called sponging, is when someone repeatedly asks for help from others. They won’t work very hard to help themselves first, and they have a low likelihood of returning the favor or ever ceasing to ask for help.

Sometimes it’s just a bad habit born of obliviousness, shame, or immaturity. Other times, it’s a sociopathic act of deliberate vampirism.

Are you really prepared to give up on all that fun?

The line between mooching and non-mooching behavior should be thick and dark, but that line can become blurred when you’re a frugal FIRE-starter.

I'm a cheap queen.

The first step that many people take on their quest for financial independence is to slash their spending wherever possible. That usually means your “fun money” budget gets gutted. Whatever you once spent on bar tabs, dining out, movies, group vacations, and live events all becomes “break out of the Matrix” money instead.

But here comes the issue: man cannot live on bread alone. You are a human being, and human beings love to have fun. They love drinking tequila and eating fried calamari and going to Bonnaroo. And if you starve yourself of the things that bring you social fulfillment and joy, your subconscious might start to look for other ways to fulfill those needs.

Like mooching off your friends.

If you’re not actually prepared to give those activities up, you may find yourself tagging along, hoping someone will offer to spot you. You may be tempted to overindulge if/when someone else is paying. Or you may cave yourself and end up indulging impulsively and feel bad about it later. Either way, it ain’t good.

That’s why we Bitches advocate creating space inside your budget for a reasonable amount of frivolous fun. Life is for the living, after all. (Also, JFC, there are tons of ways to have fun that don’t require much in the way of spending anyway, ya jamook.)

Have you become Borrowinda, Queen of the Borrowers?

Another aspect where frugality can lead you to become a mooch is when you try to buy fewer things knowing you can borrow them from friends or family members.

Now, borrowing is great. It saves money and creates less waste. But borrowing isn’t as simple as that.

You need to borrow a job with your broke ass.

When you borrow somebody’s stuff, you’re inconveniencing them, even if only mildly; you’re adding wear and tear to the item itself; and you’re reframing your friendship with that person as one of convenience. If the only time I hear from a friend is when she wants to borrow my car for the afternoon, I start to assume she likes the car a lot more than she likes me.

There are ways to wash the stink of mooching off the act of borrowing. Thank your lender multiple times, with sincerity. Offer to loan them something in exchange. Send them a card, or a gift, especially if the borrowing becomes frequent. Do them a solid the moment an opportunity presents itself.

My next-door neighbor has every tool under the sun, and if there’s a single-use tool that I need, I knock on his workshop door. But every time I return it, I bring over some home-baked goodies as well. We also make sure to bring his trash cans out for him, mow the side of his lawn closest to us, and basically do whatever we can to convenience him (that’s the opposite of inconvenience, right?). It keeps the relationship from becoming too one-sided.

Have you favored others as you have been favored?

Favors make the world go ’round, especially when your world don’t have a buncha damn money in it.

Here’s one example. My background is in graphic design and business communications, so I get asked to help other people with their resumes… A LOT. In fact, let me go check out my “friend resume” folder right now. Yep. Just as I suspected. Fourteen resumes workshopped and redesigned over the past two years. (Piggy interjection: Including mine! Piggy out.)

Now, this is something I am happy to do for my friends. I love them and I want them to have great jobs and make boatloads of money, so I will always find the time to do it. But favors like this can become a pretty big time suck, as I spend four to six hours working on each one, and at least half a dozen people ask me for help each year.

How to do it right

We’ve addressed the delicate art of the friend trade before. We Bitches believe that when you’re asking for favors that would require moolah from a non-friend, you need to make extra sure to return services of a comparable value.

In my example, let’s say you know my regular rate is $100/hour. (Which it is, by the way. Raise your rates, hunties.) If you’re committed to not mooching, you should consider yourself indebted until you’ve repaid me with $400 worth of return favors. You may think that $400 is an impossible sum to pay back, but it’s shockingly easy to do. A long weekend of dog-sitting for my two little money pits clears the debt entirely. And you add extra value on top, because I trust a friend more with my dogs than a stranger. It’s a win-win situation.

Now, to be clear, friends shouldn’t be too exact in keeping tabulations with each other. You don’t want to be Jack Donaghy, with little dollar amounts floating in a HUD over the heads of everyone you know. And you should not accept gifts or return favors if you know damn well the person giving them cannot afford to do so, especially if they’re asking because they’re in a rough spot. Ideally, your friendships will be tight enough that minor discrepancies just become part of the normal give-and-take of all relationships.

But friends also don’t use each other or disrespect each other’s professions. That’s why we think it’s better to use a real money value as a rule of thumb to show your appreciation for the help you received.

If you aren’t paranoid about mooching, you’re not paying enough attention

There’s a right way and a wrong way to be frugal.

As we’ve discussed in the past, being frugal is no excuse for being a bad-tipping garbage person. Extreme financial discipline is a process that requires consent. If there are ill effects, you need to make sure you’re the one who feels them—not service people, your family, or your buds.

I'm not for sale!

The FIRE community has a smug streak. Come on, you know it just as well as we do. And smugness is a symptom of immaturity. It’s comparing yourself favorably to someone else (somebody whose priorities and situation may be nothing at all like yours) to make yourself feel more secure in your choices. It’s gross. And it’s beneath us all. We really want to encourage more emotional maturity in how we look at money issues.

Part of being an emotionally mature frugal person is performing a regular inventory of your behavior. Financial independence is an awesome, amazing thing… but not when it comes at the expense of priceless, irreplaceable relationships.

Be your best, non-mooching selves, everyone! We believe in you!

9 thoughts to “Are You a Frugal Mooch?: Mooching Off Friends Is Not a Valid Savings Strategy”

  1. Your comment about smuggness in the FIRE community is spot on. I stopped reading one particular FIRE blogger, who has a net worth well in excess of $1 million, when he talked about going to a “pay-what-you-can” museum and paying only $2 for his large family. (For the whole family. Not per person.) Being frugal is one thing; taking advantage of others to save money is an entirely different, and entirely unacceptable, one.

    1. My head just did a full Exorcism spin. Excuse me, what, what, W H A T . Who was this. Can I guess? No, wait, I’m pretty sure I can guess. What a colossally oblivious dick!!!

  2. I worry about this a lot in general, and I worry about it even more specific to my parents. They still always want to treat us to dinner and things like that. Right now, every time they buy something for Baby, I put the money they spent in an envelope, and I’m trying to figure out how to give it back to them. Likely I’ll buy the plane tickets for their next vacation. I also think that people who worry about being frugal mooches are probably a lot less likely to be the mooches. But I will worry on anyway 😉

  3. I’ve been in situations where the check comes and the conversation is so awful (along with the calculator apps) that I’ve grabbed the check, and just said “we’re all set”, you can buy me a beer later. Some people actually find it off-putting, but in the end, if this happens a couple times a year, it’s not going to kill me.

    1. This, exactly. We don’t go out to dinner with friends unless we’re able and willing to pick up the whole check. I haaaaaaaate the check division wrangling circus, and unless you can be cool with splitting the check with minimal drama (and no calculators), I am just going to grab the whole thing and be done with it. At the very least, most of my friends have enough good sense to offer to get the next meal and follow through.

  4. Did you see this? There was a point in the story when the woman was crashing with friends every time an Airbnb customer came. I was like……”yeah, I totally wouldn’t put up with a friend crashing with me on the regular so she could make money off of her place, at least unless she offered me a cut.” It reminded me of this piece.

    1. Just read it! I’m super happy for her Airbnb success, but yeah I’m with you. Some questions for her:
      1. How did you repay your friends for crashing on their couches?
      2. Has Airbnb played a role in gentrification and rising housing costs in your area?
      3. At what point did you start saving your earnings for down payments on other properties?

  5. I have a friend who mooches because she’s on disability and literally cannot have more than, I think, $2K/mo. Usually I’m cool with it, but one time it was too much. I had volunteered my place for a get together with friends, including food and drinks and a holiday craft with all the supplies. She showed up with a completely different craft that was only for her, used up my good ribbons, and left right after she was done. Didn’t even bother trying the craft I’d prepared. I felt very used.

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